Refresh for low-end could attract 9x7 users
HPs e3000 Platform Planning Manager Dave Snow
announced that a new system based on the companys A-Class HP
9000 servers will be introduced next year, offering a refresh on the
low end of the 3000 line.
Snows talk referred to the system as a Next
Generation low end HP 3000, one of three price points for
computers using the latest PA-RISC processors and PCI IO
subsystems.
The A-Class e3000s will be priced in the region of
the 9x8s, but will have higher performance, Snow said.
Performance will range from 1.7 at the low end of A-Class to greater
than 5, measured in HP 3000 performance units where a Series 918 is a
1.
The A-Class systems can accept PA-8600 and PA-8700
systems, and will ship perhaps in the third quarter with
PA-8500 processors. Maximum memory will be 8Gb. HP claims its current
918 systems only support about a 512Mb. The A-Class comes with
100-Base-T bandwidth included, and two or four IO slots. One of
its significant limiters will be IO capacity, Snow said.
The A-Class form factor starts to approach the portability
that some 3000 customers have hoped for, with each unit standing less
than 4 inches (9 cm) high. It becomes almost something you
could stick under a terminal, and it almost looks like a PC,
Snow said. People have been asking for it for 15
years.
The A-Class boxes will require MPE/iX 7.0, just as the
forthcoming N Class systems will. In time, it will support multiple
processors. This will become an attractive platform a year from
now, Snow said. I hope in the Chicago [HP World show
next August] to talk about this already shipping, or shortly to be
shipping.
HP
wont be using the L-Class technology from its 9000 line for
future e3000s. It expects to have lower-frequency N-Class systems to
fill the L Class pricing space.
N-Class details
While the A-Class system will use the PA-8500 chips HP has
been discussing for its next generation, the N-Class systems at the
midrange and high end of the Next Generation will get even faster
than last reported. Theyll use PA-8600 chips at release.
Snow said that the 3000 division has a policy of using the
latest released version of the PA-RISC processors. The arrival of the
N-Class systems has little to do with processor availability, he
explained. Its all about the time needed to rework the
3000s IO subsystems. The A-Class e3000s will leverage the
engineering that the 3000 labs are completing this fall for the
N-Class.
But the arrival of N-Class systems doesnt mean
were going to force people to move to these. Snow said HP
would continue to sell the 9x9 systems after the N-Class 3000s ship
early next year. Support for the 9x9s will continue for five years
after the N-Class introduction.
He
also said that CSY isnt going to lead in terms of moving
to IA-64. We dont need to. Weve got good-performing chips
that provide us with the 30 percent per year performance increase
maybe even exceeding that for several years to
come. N-Class boxes will debut which have 30 percent greater
performance than the current top end of the line, the 12-way Series
997 systems. HP relative performance unit ratings will be in the
mid-60s for the N-Class top-end, compared to the low 50s for the
current Series 997s. Systems with slower clock speeds of the PA-8600
will serve as the midrange of the next generation 3000 line. The 8600
chips will be released in frequencies of 220, 330, 440, and 550
MHz.
Initial shipments of the N-Class will have only 4-way
processing, but will still outperform a 12-way Series 997. That
gives you a feel for the power of the server and the infrastructure
changes that weve built into this box, he said.
Ultra-SCSI comes with the platform, as well as 12 IO slots, each with
a 400Mb per second transfer rate. The current capacity on 3000 slots
is between 20 to 30Mb per second.
The N-Class ships with two integrated disk drives, at a
minimum of 36Gb each and 72Gb later in the year 2001. LDEV 1
will still be 4Gb, Snow said, to some laughter in the audience.
Its a separate issue and its being worked
upon. HP will remove the requirement to purchase an integrated
hard disk when it starts to sell the N-Class 3000s.
Gigabit LAN wont be available at first release, but
will appear in an add-on card available in early 2002. But the core
MFIO card built in to the N-Class will have both 10 and 100-Base-T
network bandwidth. On current HP 3000s, a separate card must be added
for 100-Base-T. HP will continue to charge customers support fees for
the 100-Base-T software on the 900 Series systems, but N-Class
systems will have no such support charge. Native Fiber Channel
support is now projected for 2002, Snow added.
IA-64 Update
IA-64 will require a new MPE/iX release, Snow said. He
stated, without any conditions, that PA-RISC and Classic
applications will not have to be recompiled [for IA-64]. Some servers
will be board upgradeable to IA-64. N-Class is planned to be; the
A-Class is not planned to be. Making the technology choices to
support IA-64 would raise the price of the A-Class systems, Snow
said.
MPE/iX support for IA-64 will begin beyond 2003, he said.
We think we have enough performance with PA-RISC to last us
well into 2003, he said, so 2004 is the earliest
youll see IA-64 from the MPE perspective.
The arrival of the IA-64 boxes looks like it will signal a
new set of binaries for applications. Developers and customers who
run their own code dont have to worry about developing
two binaries, one each for IA-64 and PA-RISC, and then recompile it
for the highest performance on IA-64. Thats a few years away
before you have to worry about that.
HP
said it is seriously debating if the MPE/iX 7.0 release will be
supported on the 9x7 servers. Thats another reason you
want to be scratching your head about the 9x7 servers, Snow
said. HP 3000s in the generation prior to the 9x7 were dropped from
support in the 6.5 release. Snows comments indicate HP will
continue the trend of winnowing support of its older servers with
forthcoming releases of MPE.