August 2001
Number 65
(Update of Volume 6, Issue 10)
Correction, or anticipation:
what is the Perl support plan?
In an item from our June FlashPaper, we reported that
HP is planning to support Perl on the HP e3000, although a firm date
on that support hadn't been announced yet. Although we were working
from official HP information on a Web site -- one that answered
questions from the May 15 CSY Webcast -- it looks as if support for
the handy scripting language and Web utility hasn't been given the
green light yet.
Our FlashPaper item said "Perl is going to cost
something to be supported," and then added that "Official
HP support is currently planned for a future release of Perl, to be
bundled with a future release of the extra-cost HP WebWise MPE/iX
Secure Web Server product."
We got the information from HP. A few weeks after the
Webcast, HP posted this text, replying to questions about supporting
Perl:
"Perl 5.6.0 is available today as unsupported
freeware from <http://www.bixby.org/mark/perlix.html>. HP is
currently working on porting 5.6.1 as unsupported freeware, and will
submit the MPE changes from that code base forward into what will
become Perl 5.7.x." Then HP went on to say:
"Official HP support is currently planned for a
future release of Perl, to be bundled with a future release of the
extra-cost HP WebWise MPE/iX Secure Web Server product."
The information on the HP Web site was drawn up by a
committee between CSY marketing and engineering. Even though it
seemed clear that support which is "official" and
"currently planned" was a step forward beyond the customary
"we will see if our customers think this should be done"
phase of new software's lifespan on the 3000, not everything was as
HP presented it at its Web site.
The "currently planned" is a milestone of
note in the life of any HP work for the 3000. When something is
planned, it's gonna be done. What is usually not known at that stage
is when the work begins, or will be completed. The lab-speak goes in
these steps: considered, planned, staffed, completed, tested,
released. Getting from step one to step two is the significant leap,
an HP commitment.
Mark Bixby -- the CSY engineer likely to be in the
forefront of anything Perl-related on the e3000, since he did final
packaging of Perl 5.6.1 to respond to the "supported Perl as a
part of WebWise" request finished in the Top 10 of the SIB --
weighed in when a reader asked about the support. Not so fast, Bixby
reported. HP apparently didn't mean to confirm Perl support for the
platform, at least not right now.
"An HP-supported version of Perl is merely
"under consideration" at this time," Bixby wrote.
"Note that this does not yet mean "yes" or
"no". If you come to my Perl presentation at HPWorld, I
will see if I can have a firmer answer by then."
"The Perl distribution I am working on is just
basic vanilla Perl. It will not come bundled with Ted Ashton's
TurboImage module, or any other non-standard module. If you want to
play with the TurboImage support, you will have to download it
separately and build it yourselves.
"HP support for the Perl TurboImage module is
not currently under consideration. However, the initial CSY plans are
to distribute Perl 5.6.1 via Jazz as unsupported freeware. This will
be an upgrade from the bixby.org 5.6.0 version, and all diffs have
been submitted back to the official Perl developers and are currently
included in the 5.7.2 developer release (which will eventually become
the 5.8.0 public release)."
To his credit, Bixby owned up to the CSY
miscommunication about its Perl plans. A great advocate of the
language, he still had to clarify that it isn't qualified for HP
support on the 3000 yet.
"The Webcast Q&A materials were a group
effort in which I participated. Answers were submitted by many
different lab authors and the final Web pages were put together by
Marketing. It appears that there was a miscommunication somewhere
between the lab and Marketing.
"I remember the Perl answer was discussed as a
group, and my recollection of the Perl statement wording was
"being considered" instead of "planned". I just
double-checked my already submitted HP World Perl slideset which was
finalized at about the same time as the Q&A, and I do use the
"being considered" language there."
"So I apologize for this miscommunication. I
personally am still a big fan of Perl, and still speaking personally,
I would love to see it as a supported product someday. :-)"
Like Bixby, we hope its status reverts to that on the
HP Web site report soon. Customers are reporting it to be a powerful
tool for e-services, a thing HP has a lot of interest in. We also
believe supporting it with TurboIMAGE, somehow, is a good thing too,
since there's very few 3000s that don't need to connect with
TurboIMAGE.
Bixby will give the latest and truest answer he can
at HP World. We'll be there to hear the news ourselves.
HP World kickoff nears,
hopes to buck industry trends
Bixby's report is just one reason HP World is the
place to be next week. As we write this, the show is less than a week
away. It's the biggest conference for the HP e3000 world, and this
year marks the 17th time in a row I've attended the Interex North
American show for HP users. It's hard to remember a time when the IT
industry as a whole, or HP itself, was under such economic
pressure.
Last month we noted that signs were pointing to an HP
World with fewer attendees, and more room to roam the booth space on
the Expo floor. Interex's Kathy Herzog, who over much of those 17
years has built up a perennial juggernaut of a conference that is the
user group's biggest moneymaker, begged to differ. She said attendees
were ahead of last year's numbers for the conference, but she didn't
say if those numbers were paid registrants or those on hand for the
free expo.
"Even in light of the tough economic conditions
in the high tech industry and with HP, the good news is that
conference attendance is currently ahead of last year at this
time!," Herzog reported. "We are very hopeful that we can
continue this trend, and keep attendance better or equal to last
year. This is good news for all of us, especially for HP." Of
course, even the Interex chairman Ed Witkow noted that conference
attendance is down industry-wide this year. The user group is hoping
to buck this year's trend, and continue its growth.
Make no mistake: we're glad to know the conference is
performing well for the user group. We hadn't wished for anybody who
works as hard as Herzog's conference staff has to fall short of goals
of continued growth, each and every year. The conference business is
a hard one, and this year's stalled economy can only make the
challenge harder. Some vendors have reported the show floor size has
contracted from initial floor plans, giving them a better spot in the
reshuffled floor map. That's one thing we meant by more "room to
roam." To be realistic, very little of business is performing at
its Year 2000 rate.
For some, watching who appears at a conference is a
barometer of its importance -- or that of the attendee. A few weeks
ago CBS MarketWatch posted an article on its financial Web site about
HP CEO Carly Fiorina's absence from this year's HP World. This year
the top officer in HP won't attend, as she did in 1999 in San
Francisco, or even present in a video link, as she did last year.
"Confirmation that HP's top executive will be a no-show at HP
World, one of the company's largest yearly events, comes as Fiorina's
leadership skills have increasingly been called into question,"
the MarketWatch item said. "Criticism of Fiorina's escalated
last week after the company announced a third-quarter profit warning,
along with HP's largest round of layoffs ever." For MarketWatch,
the question of Fiorina's disappearance cast concerns about the CEO,
not the show. It's an event that's proved itself.
For those of us who commit to the show as necessity,
the venue will present some challenges, though not quite as many as
we alluded to in our last Extra article. The Hyatt hotel is connected
to Chicago's sprawling McCormick Place, where the show is set up in
the North hall. But even after adding a hotel to the complex,
McCormick hasn't become any easier to get to on foot, and there's
very little around the center. The Unofficial Chicago travel guide
reports that the center has no lobby, and nary a clock in the place.
This kind of casino arrangement will probably serve to focus
everybody on the news and discussions while they're working.
The HP 3000 community in attendance will be missing
some familiar faces, but those who are there will be breaking new
ground. At SIG-Client-Server's meeting on Friday at 8AM, leaders Ken
Nutsford and Brian Duncombe hope to present reports from users
employing Message Oriented Middleware. Vendors of products delivering
MOM are also invited.
MPE Pocket Guide gets an
update
One thing HP World will deliver is the first
appearance of a new edition of the ORBiT Pocket Guide for MPE/iX.
Engineer Paul Taffel, who's led the effort on the prior versions of
the indispensible guide to commands and syntax for MPE, said the
version coming out at the show will be up to date, right up to
Express 1 of MPE/iX -- a release that HP isn't even shipping yet for
the e3000. We expect news on that Express 1 ship date, too, since it
makes the new N-Class systems capable of multiple processor computing
and larger memory sizes.
If you're not attending the conference, you can still
get the updated pocket guide at the ORBiT Store on the Web, www.mainstreet-stores.com/ORBITSW.
COBOL World postponed
Things could be much worse in the conference
business. SIG-COBOL chair Jeanette Nutsford was sorry to report the
first COBOL World conference has been postponed until next spring.
"I hope those of you who were planning to attend will not be too
inconvenienced, and that you will still be interested to participate
in the conference next year." Nutsford had arranged a discount
for HP customers registering for the show, which was to be held in
October. "I am personally very disappointed as the program was
going to provide a most varied cross section of technologies with
special focus on the COBOL developers needs."
Conference organizers said "The recent downturn
in the economy has wrecked havoc in almost all areas of business. In
particular, the slashing of travel budgets has extracted a
significant toll from conferences with many being cancelled and
others being poorly attended."
"COBOL World 2001 is also feeling the effect of
this downturn. A just-completed intensive telemarketing effort by us
and by one of our primary sponsors found very strong interest in the
conference. Unfortunately the economic downturn reared its ugly head.
Although our efforts produced modest returns, we saw an unusually
high percentage of individuals with responses such as: "Can't
now because of budget problems, but count me in, after our budget
picture loosens up."
Some DDS tapes struggle to boot
on 3000s
HP is confirming that a problem in tape drive
firmware prevents some Cold System Load Tapes from booting up HP
e3000s. The problems appear to occur with any DDS cartridge other
than a 125-meter tape. Some HP 3000 managers use shorter DDS-2 tapes
to save money and tape capacity, and the HP Response Center is
recommending using only 125-meter tapes.
"The problem is in firmware," said Dave
Birbeck of HP, "and has been fixed within the past few
weeks." Birbeck offers more details, perhaps including the
firmware revision, for customers who e-mail him at
dave_birbeck@hp.com.
"I can vouch that this can be a real problem, as
I was on a customer site backing out of a 6.5 update and all their
SLTs were on 90m tapes," Birbeck noted in an Internet posting.
"I somehow conned the machine into thinking it had a 125m tape
in the drive when it was a 90m tape. Mount any 125m tape, take the
machine down, and while down dismount the 125m and replace with the
90m CSLT, and it worked. Cannot guarantee that this will always be
successful."
Others at say there might be more to the problem than
just firmware. "I believe it's actually a combination of the
firmware and the code that loads the tape," said Matt Shade.
Posting from the HP Atlanta operations, Shade said, "the
customer has been saved simply by trying BO ALT three or four times.
One of those times might just make it past the code, and everything
runs smoothly from there (once you're past the problem, you're past
it)."
"However, many times we haven't been able to
ever boot off the tape, so the workaround is usually to boot back up
PRI, then either recreate the tape (rerun AUTOINST, AUTOPAT, or
PATCHIX) using a 125m tape, or some people have been able to use
SLTCOPY and just copy the tape. TCPY might work there, also. Bottom
line, tapes <125m MAY have a problem booting."
Another HP manager advised "If you are going to
use a DDS-3 drive to create an SLT, then you need to use a DDS-3
tape. I have yet to have a system boot from a DDS-2 tape that was
created on a DDS-3 drive. [It] really doesn't have anything to do
with the O/S version as I have experienced this on 5.5, 6.0, and 6.5.
"
Doug Werth of Beechglen Development, suppliers of
support for many HP 3000 sites, said "It obviously has something
to do with the creating of the SLT on DDS-2 media by a DDS-3 drive
(as opposed to a problem with a DDS-3 drive reading a DDS-2 SLT.) I
conclude this for several reasons. First, we have created many DDS-2
SLTs that have been used to load on DDS-3 drives. Second, the factory
SLTs are still delivered on DDS-1 60 meter tapes. Consequently, DDS-3
drives have no inherent difficulties reading non-DDS-3 SLTs. The only
problem appears to be reading a non-DDS-3 tape specifically created
on a DDS-3 drive."
Ecometry users can use a
security bootstrap
There's no substitute for experience when configuring
an HP 3000, but many times that's the attribute in shortest supply at
the Ecometry/MACS sites running catalog and e-commerce operations.
These can be customers starting up their first HP e3000s, and they
rely on the experience of the community to help them. Chris Bartram,
an HP 3000 veteran who moved into Ecometry system management through
a consulting contract, recently gave advice on how to improve
security and configuration on the 3000.
Consulting at the US Mint, Bartram said, "One of
the first things I did when I got here was audit security on the
systems. SG/Ecometry left the system wide open, with lots of
capabilities granted and files released because they obviously didn't
understand how the OS works.
"In short, if set up properly, users DON'T need
OP.. which does allow global access to spoolfiles (and BACKUPS! Among
other things). The first week I was here a user playing around
accidentally fired off a full-system backup in the middle of the
day.. knocking everyone off the system. It didn't help that for some
reason "BACKUP" was a selection on some user's menus...
"We went a bit overboard in securing the system;
and even brought in a separate box just for printing, where users get
a dedicated menu when they log on that gives them control of THEIR
reports for printing/deleting/etc, along with a Web interface (using
Apache/iX) to allow control of printing reports from their desktops.
It does work well, but some of the principles could be accomplished
on a single box.
"All MACS users really need (cap-wise) is IA (BA
if they'll stream jobs under their OWN IDs, which MACS doesn't
usually do). Since pretty much all reports are generated in batch
jobs, ND isn't usually needed, except for users that might have
access to Suprtool/query to do ad-hoc reports. Ditto SF
capability.
"OP is SG's lazy way of allowing printer
control.. but ends up granting way too much control. A better
approach is selectively using ALLOW commands to specific users and
ASSOCIATE permission for printers in their areas, and providing a
printer-control menu (that both makes the task easier and keeps
people from tinkering where they shouldn't).
"One problem we encountered with the way MACS
works is that all jobs log on under the ID JOBS.<account>...
which makes managing them a little tougher... since they don't
"belong" to the user ID that streamed the job. We remedied
this using Espul [From RAC Consulting, <http://www.racc.com>]
to rename reports as they get created, changing their creator to the
same user ID of the user that streamed the job, and the device to a
device corresponding to their department or area. This lets users see
"their" reports more easily, and allowed us to give them
control over "their" reports and their specific printers
(allow the user to ASSOCIATE the printer(s) in their area, giving
them control over starting/stopping/etc that printer but no one
else's)."
Tech Group unveils fall
3000 training schedule
Hard-working training school owner Jon Backus has put
out a new set of fall courses for HP 3000 instruction at Tech Group
University. The catalog now has over 90 MPE-related training classes,
with over 30 initially on the schedule, including database tools
(Adager, DBGeneral, Omnidex, Suprtool, Query and DBGauge), languages
(COBOL, Speedware and Powerhouse 4GL), reporting (Quiz, BRW),
security (Fundamentals and Advanced), performance, spoolfile
management (NBSpool/Vista, byRequest, Sheetmate, & Espul) and
others. Please visit the virtual campus www.TechGroupMD.com to see
which classes might be right for you.
3000 updates highlight MARUG
fall meeting
Experts from Outer Banks Solutions will lead several
sessions on new features of HP 3000s at next month's Mid-Atlantic
Regional User Group (MARUG) meeting, Sept. 19-21. The meeting at the
Wyndham Myrtle Beach Resort in Myrtle Beach, S.C. includes an update
on MPE/iX 6.5 and 7.0 on Thursday Sept. 20, and an MPE roundtable
and a one-hour briefing on the new A-Class and N-Class e3000s on
Friday Sept. 21. A Thursday-Friday pass is $170, while Friday-only is
$90; early bird registration ends Sept. 10. Details on conference
registration are at the MARUG Web site, www.marug.org. Aug. 19 is the
deadline to sign on for $109 ocean-view rooms at the resort: call
843.692.3131 to make a reservation.
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