February 2002
Number 71
(Update of Volume 7, Issue 4)
HP ends the baiting: drops fees for Web
migration training
It
didn't take long for HP to realize the magnitude of its mistake about
migrating from the HP 3000 at least its mistake of trying to
charge for Web-based training on how to migrate. After announcing
that it planned to charge for this year's detailed Webcasts which
will outline how to get onto HP-UX systems from the 3000, the
Commercial Systems Division (CSY) started telling customers just two
weeks later the Webcasts would be free of charge. Customers roundly
criticized HP's proposed pricing for the classes, so HP took the high
road and followed the low-cost structure to deliver advice on leaving
the MPE platform.
Webcast host George Stachnik said the upcoming shows will
"try delivering real honest-to-goodness skills training over the
Web. This skills training is quite different from the marketing
content that we've been presenting in the past year. These programs
will be all technical content, with little or no marketing fluff.
They will teach you how to migrate step by step."
Stachnik, who works for the marketing group of the HP 3000 division,
explained that HP's produced Webcasts up to this point for the 3000
community "contain news and information about new migration
tools and services as these things become available. These free
Webcasts are primarily vehicles for HP marketing (which is why
they're free). They will contain some technical content. I don't
think I'm being too cynical if I characterize the technical content
as the 'bait' which is there to get you to come to hear the
marketing."
Less than two weeks later HP marketing had heard enough from
customers to abandon the idea of charging as much as $1,000 per
Webcast, or even as little as $50. "The Jan 22nd Webcast was
only an introduction to HP's program for helping HP e3000 customers
make the transition from the HP e3000 to other HP platforms,"
Stachnik said in an Internet posting. "During the next several
months, HP plans to provide a full curriculum of customer Webcasts
that cover this topic in detail. Based on feedback received from
3000-L, comp.sys.hp.mpe and during the Webcast itself, it has been
decided that all of these Webcasts will be available from HP at no
charge."
Customers had advised the vendor that no matter how much the
training might have cost to produce, recovering the fees from sites
which face thousands to millions of dollars in migration expense
"seemed like kicking us when we are down." From our
perspective, the training is just one more product HP is creating
which its 3000 customers are unwilling to purchase.
Fix your 6.5 SL.PUB.SYS file
While Web-based training revenues disappeared from the 3000
division's vision, its R&D staff watched a problem with a key
file in the operating system emerge on a wide range of 3000s, then
posted a fix you might need if you're running MPE/iX 6.5. Allegro
Consultants' Stan Sieler located the initial report on the problem,
alerting the 3000 community through the 3000-L mailing list:
"One (or more) MPE/iX 6.5 patches may cause a problem
with your SL.PUB.SYS, which could cause a problem for some programs.
In my case, MPEKXX0 was cited as one of the patches that can cause
the problem.
Call ID: 3200531331
SR: 8606232211
How to detect the problem:
:debug
cm
var foo cmtonmnode (mpefiletype + %27)
nm
dc foo, 7
You'll see something like the following (I flagged the bad
instructions with "-->"):
TRANS $22.1f66194
01f66194 MPEFILETYPE+%27 4b7d0028 LDW 20(sr0,r27),r29
01f66198 d06c1fc1 EXTRS r3,30,31,r12
01f6619c d3bd1fc1 EXTRS r29,30,31,r29
--> 01f661a0 d4dd0a10 ZDEP r29,15,16,r6
--> 01f661a4 d58c0a10 ZDEP r12,15,16,r12 --> 01f661a8
0986d406 SUB,NSV r6,r12,r6
--> 01f661ac e680e5a0 BLE 720(sr7,r20)
If you don't see the "SUB,NSV & BLE", then you
don't have this problem."
After Sieler's alert, the HP 3000 labs posted a workaround to
fix the problem patches. It involves retranslating the SL.PUB.SYS
file. See the HP script at jazz.external.hp.com/src/scripts/sloctfix.
System managers can download I00STRSL and M00STRSL to the HP 3000 (If
you don't have AUTOPAT laying around, download that file too).
HP's Mark Bixby reported that "Processing the STRSL
files with AUTOPAT results in a new CSLT tape with a correctly
translated SL.PUB.SYS. Then UPDATE from the new CSLT to install the
fixed SL.PUB.SYS. The ultimate fix for this issue is still being
worked on, and involves fixing our patch tools to behave correctly
when translating SL.PUB.SYS."
HP offices extend 9x7 HP support
Some HP 3000 customers in the US are reporting their local HP
offices are guaranteeing support for the 9x7 Series HP 3000s beyond
HP's published end of support date (currently April 30 of this year).
The extension of support is happening on a city by city basis, and it
depends on the availability of parts for the stalwart HP 3000 models.
HP representative Kevin Cooper confirmed that some offices were
extending support beyond the official deadline based on parts
availability, but HP's official position remains that there's too few
9x7 parts to give the largest single segment of HP's 3000 community
more time on HP support. Some customers note that with the current HP
Round Up trade in program for 9x7s in full swing through April, the
company might soon be awash in 9x7 parts. Then there's the HP 9000
equivalent models to cannibalize as well. Third-party suppliers of
support say they've got no concerns about supporting 9x7 sites, even
with replacement hardware, indefinitely.
Processors provide plenty of
emulation horsepower
Emulation of the HP 3000 hardware on other processors is
gaining support among companies experienced in HP 3000 architecture
and firms which have already built emulators for Digital servers.
Critics of the concept, which if successful could extend the 3000's
hardware platform indefinitely, point to the severe hardware demands
of emulation as a stumbling block. But Intel's recent International
Solid State Circuits Conference announcements showed there will be
chips plenty fast enough to offer IA-32 based emulation a chance to
equal PA-RISC speed. Intel, a company already partnered with HP on
the Itanium chip project, presented a paper detailing a portion of a
microprocessor that has performed at up to 10 gigahertz at room
temperature. Current chips in the Intel line run at a little more
than 2 gigahertz.
Hardware architects will be quick to point out that clock
speed is only one aspect of a system's ability to perform, and that
performance needed to emulate another architecture's clock speed
demands a lot of horsepower. HP 3000 customers should also remember
that the fastest PA-RISC chip HP will ever release for the 3000 only
runs at 550 megahertz, a little more than 5 percent of the speed
Intel is quoting for its forthcoming 10 GHz chip.
Oracle to dump HP-UX in its IT
ops
Just as HP starts to recommend its HP-UX platform as a safe
place for HP 3000 sites to migrate toward, one of the biggest HP
partners is pulling its IT operations off that proprietary Unix
platform. Oracle is replacing the three HP-UX servers that run the
bulk of its business applications with a cluster of Intel servers
running Linux, according to Oracle CEO Larry Ellison. The Oracle
chief was plugging the benefits of Oracle's clustering technology to
an audience of financial analysts, a new scheme that will let
enterprise sites -- the kind that HP likes to say have turned away
from the HP 3000 -- run applications across a group of low-cost Intel
servers using Linux.
Oracle's IT department -- presumably an operation with enough
bandwidth to adopt any technology -- is doing some migrating of its
own this year, away from HP-UX. Instead of upgrading three of its
older HP Unix servers, Oracle will move its application server and
business software to Linux-based Intel machines this year, Ellison
said. "We'll be on Linux no later than the summer, so we'll be
running our whole business on Linux," he said. Oracle favors
Intel servers because they are "cheap" and can be easily
replaced, he said, and he picked Linux over Microsoft Windows because
Linux is "much safer if you're on the Internet." HP's
response to questions about its HP-UX commitment, raised during that
January Webcast on migration, was to tout how well its Unix scored in
analyst comparisons. We found it an interesting answer, but
definitely not one to the question of "how long can we count on
HP-UX?"
Suprtool adds Eloquence support
A long-time provider of database technology for the HP 3000
has extended its tools to the Eloquence database, a proposed
replacement that behaves like IMAGE on Unix, Linux and NT platforms.
Robelle started an alpha test program in early February on a new
HP-UX Suprtool version with Eloquence support, according to architect
Neil Armstrong:
"We have currently added support for HP Eloquence
databases into the HP-UX version of Suprtool," Armstrong said in
an Internet posting. "We are looking for a few select alpha
testers who are familiar with Suprtool on MPE and are looking at
migrating to HP Eloquence on HP-UX. We have the commands that you are
used to using on MPE working with IMAGE databases, and we need more
users trying the software out, especially in trying the various data
types available in HP Eloquence." Prospective testers can
contact Armstrong at neil.armstrong@robelle.com with information
"as to if you have Eloquence installed, if you have a database
built and what your plans are, or even if you are just
investigating."
Interex survey offers 3000 users
impact
The HP user group Interex recently uncapped its Worldwide
Advocacy Survey, and some 3000 supporters suggest the document can be
used to send a message to HP and its customers. Ken Nutsford, an
Interex volunteer and chair of the SIG-Client-Server special interest
group, said that by going to http://www.interex.org/survey
customers can "show their dissatisfaction with HP. If the HP
3000 community can make HP sneeze, then we have a chance they will
take notice of us and the stink we are making about the
discontinuance of the HP 3000 and our refusal to migrate to other HP
computers. Get your fellow HP 3000 users to fill out the survey as
well. The more who do, the better chance we have as a community of
impacting on HP."
Interex advocacy surveys of prior years identified the HP
3000 community as one of the most satisfied segments of HP's customer
base. Given that an earlier Interex survey this year showed two
thirds of the 3000 customers opposing the HP migration
recommendation, it will be interesting to see how satisfied the MPE
customers are after HP's announcement. Interex gathers data in the
survey to positively identify which platforms a customer is using. It
also asks specific questions about level of satisfaction with HP
actions in each platform segment.
HP World paper deadline approaches
fast
Interex is making plenty of room for migration expertise in
its upcoming conferences, but the deadline for submitting some of
your first-year experience with the topic is fast approaching. Feb.
22 is the last day to submit a paper topic for this year's HP World
show, to be held in Los Angeles Sept. 23 - 27. For more details head
to the Interex Web site at
<http://www.interex.org/conference/hpworld2002/cfphome/hpw02_cfp_01.html>
for track descriptions and suggested topics. Almost half of the
suggested topics for MPE/iX tracks involve migration topics, so the
user group is clearly open to the flow of your migration experience.
Conference organizers will let presenters know if their paper or
tutorial has been accepted starting March 20, the day after the HP
vote on its merger with Compaq. Presenters get one free day at the
conference -- the same day your deliver your presentation -- as
compensation for the paper.
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