December 2002
Number 81 (Update of Volume 8,
Issue 2)
HP wants just one version of MPE for
emulation
Discussion on the OpenMPE mailing list indicates that HP's
getting specific about its support of MPE for Homesteading customers.
It's a good sign that the company intends to provide specific help
for the 3000 customers who can't cost-justify migration. Jeff Vance,
the HP engineer sitting on the OpenMPE board of directors, is saying
that HP wants to narrow the number of versions of MPE to one for
customers who want to use Intel-based emulators in the future. (Two
companies are planning to build such software, which lets a PC
pretend it's a PA-RISC HP 3000).
Vance said that HP "sees value" in a single version
of the OS for emulator licenses. "Not requiring a special
version of MPE for the emulator seems desirable to CSY. It may also
be desirable to the emulator vendors, I don't know. They could then
say that exactly the same version of MPE that runs on a e3000 also
runs via their emulator."
In the plan, "the same version of MPE will run on an
emulator and on a 3000. So, it is undesirable (at least now) to
create a special version of MPE (minus ODBC, MKS, and streams) so
that we can reduce the price of a new MPE license. This puts an extra
burden on the emulator vendors, creates a situation where a
production MKS shell script no longer works on the emulator, creates
licensing issues for HP (if we include open source replacements for
the missing pieces)... Essentially, we would no be delivering a
working version of MPE with these parts gone."
Vance added that HP sees value in the OS, "enough to
fund 'CSY' in various efforts aimed at working out ways for MPE to be
viable post-2006, even though the official HP and CSY message is to
migrate or at least plan for an eventual migration. Enough to fund
non-migration focused HP attendees at HP World and the two upcoming
Solution Symposiums."
Interex unveils second 3000
Symposium date
What was once a single all-3000 training opportunity a year
has doubled in scope, as Interex released dates for an East Coast US
Solutions Symposium to go along with its traditional West Coast show.
The shows are about a month apart, with Valley Forge, PA getting the
nod for the first Eastern meeting of what Interex is calling the
e3000 Solutions and Migration Symposium. Valley Forge (really King of
Prussia, PA for you travel planners) runs March 26-29, while San Jose
holds forth April 23-26. Get details at the Interex Solution
Symposium Web page for now. And look for an interview with
Interex chief of advocacy Debbie Lawson-Kirkwood in an upcoming issue
of the NewsWire. Lawson-Kirkwood runs the Symposiums for
Interex, and we're looking forward to getting her views on the user
group's expansion of 3000 training.
Interex is also running a Web-based survey to gather needs
from customers, reporting the information to HP and its members.
Weigh in with what you need and where you're headed with your 3000s
at the Interex
Web site. Remember, there's no limit to who can complete the
survey -- members and non-members alike can fill out the form, which
will help both HP and OpenMPE plan for the coming year.
Euro user groups merge before North
America's
Breaking ground once more for Americans, the Europeans have
already established a user group alliance between HP and Compaq
groups. The HP Computer User Association's Deputy Editor Cecilia
Dennett reports that "we in Europe have managed to create a
federation that genuinely respects the traditions of both sets of
user groups, and looks set to mount a successful European Conference
and use the profits therefrom to create more services for user groups
in Europe." Dennett notes the North American groups are still
months away from such an alliance. "Meanwhile, over the pond,
the HP User Groups are separate, and have no immediate plans to
merge. Not even a talking shop..."
In Europe there will be a joint meeting to show that the
Europeans are doing more than talking. HP-Interex EMEA, the
newly-merged European Federation of User Groups, will be organizing a
European Conference for HP Users in Amsterdam on May 17-21, 2003.
This event will be the first European event to cover both the
former Compaq, as well as 'old HP' users, and will benefit from the
expertise of both Interex-Europe and CUO EMEA (Compaq User
Organisation). The Call for Presentations is currently being drafted.
If you have an interest in presenting at this European event, please
send an e-mail to usersweek@hpusers.org.uk.
MB Foster's UDACentral sale ends Dec.
31
It's the new roundhouse to get data from one kind of database
to another during Transition moves, and MB Foster's UDACentral is
going to be on sale only through the end of this month. The company
is positioning the software as a tool with use well beyond the
migration of HP 3000 sites, handling conversion from IMAGE to Oracle
as a starter. You can save up to 48 percent through Dec. 31 on the
Java application. For more details head to MB Foster's
Web page on UDACentral.
COBOL gets its new standard set, at
long last
The long-awaited COBOL standard was finally ratified in
November, giving suppliers like Acucorp and MicroFocus something more
to shoot at in coming versions of their COBOL compilers. Acucorp will
be taking on the needs of the 3000 community that's looking for a
more modern COBOL compiler, since HP's efforts on behalf of COBOL II
will be waning over the next several years. When standards committees
worked at the first attempts at getting the COBOL standard set,
people seemed sure it would be called COBOL97 -- as in 1997.
SIGCOBOL chair Jeanette Nutsford reported that"I have
great pleasure in informing you that the new international 2002 COBOL
standard has been published and is available for purchase in PDF
format from ISO at http://www.iso.ch." The cost is a
bit steep for those prepared for lower prices through Web-based
documents: $225 for a download. Nutsford added that "I am
looking for a source with a more reasonable cost (preferably zero). I
think the ISO cost is aimed at companies who want to develop a
compiler to the standard. They don't recognise an individual's need
in this situation."
HP moving Amazon toward Linux, not
HP-UX
It's a brag from HP on its newest business deal with Amazon,
but the story might read differently if you're thinking of making an
enterprise-grade commitment to HP-UX during a transition from the
3000. HP recently signed on Amazon for the much lower-cost Linux
platform instead of more Unix servers; HP had swung Amazon away from
Sun's Unix to HP-UX during 2001.
In a story posted from the front page of its Web site, HP
boasted that, "Low prices are great for the customer, but they
can severely test a company's bottom line. The key to Amazon.com's
new business plan success was finding new ways to reduce operating
costs -- without affecting the positive customer experience
associated with running the Internet's most user-friendly
site."
HP said it was "Deploying a Linux-based operating
environment across Amazon.com's entire global enterprise" and
that the shift offered obvious benefits, including cost-saving
flexibility, scalability and ease-of-use." Customers are noting
that nearly every 3000 alternative comes with higher costs of
ownership, but Linux might offer something at least close to the MPE
and IMAGE bargain.
HP said it "worked closely with Amazon.com to design and
deploy a strategy that would effectively migrate the company's
servers to a Linux platform. The switch has paid off. Amazon.com's
new Linux-based platform provides the company with one of the world's
most flexible, stable and economical networks. How economical? In one
year alone, Amazon.com reduced its technology and content costs by 20
percent."
We might misunderstand the scope of the Linux win at Amazon.
But if HP is moving high uptime sites like Amazon directly to Linux,
why should its customers stop off at HP-UX?
Patchwatch: New CI file, HP
support tools for 6.5
HP's still releasing patches for its HP 3000 operating
system, and some of them are delivering new functionality as well as
bug fixes. We spotted one for the 6.5 release that drops new
diagnostic tools into the toolbelt, programs based on Unix
counterparts. HP's patch digest service reports that patch NRCMXB8A
adds support tools update fmtioerr, tcpip, netmac as well as a new CI
command
file called ftimes.
Eloquence 3000 Inc. opens wing
off Robelle's halls
It's not officially a part of Robelle's software operations,
but Robelle founder Bob Green has started up Eloquence 3000 Inc. as
a way to for migrating customers to get the database HP's picking as
an IMAGE workalike onto HP's Unix systems. Eloquence 3000 Inc. will
sell and support the Eloquence database on HP-UX as a migration
target for TurboIMAGE applications. "Having converted our
Suprtool/UX product to Eloquence," Green said, "we learned
a lot about Eloquence and we were impressed." Eloquence recently
became a wholly-owned product of Marxmeier Software AG; Green's new
firm is an authorized Eloquence reseller, focusing on the HP 3000
migration market.
HP 3000 users can obtain Eloquence trials, quotes, updates,
advice and technical support from the Eloquence 3000 Web site.
Green offered upbeat comments on what Eloquence means for
3000 users. "It allows them to maintain the same database and
access methods on HP-UX as on MPE," he said. "The
performance is faster than using IMAGE-wrapper software to make a
relational database look like IMAGE, and the cost of ownership is
much less. And users have the power of Robelle's Suprtool database
tool on both platforms as well. The result is dramatically reduced
cost of migration and the elimination of the risk and stress of
re-engineering the database design, structure and program
access."
Green's interest in Eloquence springs from the database's new
relationship with Robelle's Suprtool on MPE, a database utility that
extracts, links, sorts, rearranges, exports, reports and updates data
from TurboIMAGE databases and MPE files. "Suprtool on HP-UX
performs the same functions for Eloquence databases," Green
said. "With a few simple commands, you can do amazing things
with your data. All without having to write a program. And, you can
have the same scripts with the same databases on both MPE and HP-UX,
meaning that this part of migrating an application is simple and low
risk."
Green added that, "We have been using the Eloquence
database since November, 2001 when we started integrating it into our
Suprtool product for HP-UX. Our experience has been fantastic. The
software is solid, fast, and compatible with TurboIMAGE. The
Eloquence R&D team at Marxmeier is responsive and very
knowledgeable."
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